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[Judith's response is straight to the point. ]

You can't stop anyone who doesn't want to be stopped.

[My, my. She didn't realise these were the kinds of messages people sent out on this system]

Perhaps that's what they'd like to believe.

But I refuse to have them continue living their life just for that purpose.

Do you intend to make them bow to your will by force then?

Hmmm

An interesting question! There are plenty of ways, of course. What solutions have you tried?

Sometimes you can't. But if you're going to try, you may have to risk your life on that bet.

It might be selfish of me. But yes.

They took a wrong turn, and I don't want to see them torturing themselves any longer.

I tried to get rid of the object of their revenge for myself.

And I've also tried talking to them.

[ Sorta. ]

I was already willing to from the very start. They saved my life once before.

I want to properly repay them by saving theirs.

That's your choice to make, and maybe they'll see that you believe in them more than they need to believe in revenge.

Maybe they won't. That's their choice to make.

Have you tried helping them satisfy that revenge? Getting rid of the object yourself can just end up with someone with directionless anger that may instead latch on to you.

I guess you could always try finding something else for them to live for too, but it's impossible to force.

Well.

Not impossible, but usually unethical~☆

I don't mind if they wind up angry at me. I just simply want them to live for something else besides that revenge.

They're basically on a suicide missions, and many people care about them.

I don't want them to die after they're satiated. They deserve to live a life full of happiness; not one where they're constantly haunted.

If you truly wish to know my own methods, I will provide them.
But perhaps it would be easier to first consider this:

What is it you truly want to stop?
Revenge, single-mindedness, or the being themselves?

I'd like to hope in that.

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I'd like to hear your thoughts.

If I were to be honest, if you were to ask me which of those three I'd truly want to stop- it's their hyper-focused nature on that single thing. They need to be able to live for more than their revenge... not try and commit a suicide mission where they'll die once that revenge is complete.

Take it from an operative of Wrath, that kind of thing might just move the revenge from the previous person into you, is what I mean. If someone stole my prey, you can bet they'd be next.

Personally, I think revenge is a wonderful thing to live for. Living to see someone else's downfall and just throwing yourself into that is exhilarating! One can certainly be happy while consumed with that feeling!

[Or maybe Eichi is a weirdo! Or maybe he's a demon that works for the sin of Wrath(on paper)! Maybe he's got a lot of unresolved bitterness that pairs well with sadism!]

Anyway, you just need to learn some power to alter minds or memories and give them a good hard reset. I'm sure there's something like that here!

They're not that kind of person.

[ She's seen it for herself, after all; that's why she can say that with full confidence. ]

I can't say that I agree. Revenge being the only thing in their life is going to kill them. Once that man has had justice 'served', they'll have nothing left; they'll be completely empty and hollow. Perhaps even end their own life.

I don't want that.

And there are many others who likely don't, either.

[ But alter minds or memories, huh... ]

I'm not sure if I can rely on that. Would abilities like that be something that I could even bring back to my own home world?

Ideally, by helping them to find a better reason to live.

Hope is precious. But sometimes people get so locked into their hurt that they can't see it anymore. Doesn't mean it's not worth trying though.

Death comes for us all, someday~☆

Mmh! Only one way to find out, is there? What you've done so far hasn't worked, and the only other idea is "hope they decide they want to change", or make some kind of deal with a devil.

Or perhaps you should let them do as they please. It is their life to use or lose as they wish, and in the end it's all you really take with you when you go. Perhaps this revenge is more precious to them than happiness, more precious than the people who care for them who wish for their health.

I see. How admirable.

[ of akane, or of aqua? she doesn't specify further. ]

First, you have asked for my own thoughts, and given me your own truth. It would be childish of me to not speak openly as well.

As a first step, I would decide whether or not to seize their goal for myself. A man cannot take revenge if you pry his ideals from his grasp, and a life is easily enough taken. Left without a cause, the vagrant might take up a worthwhile cause.

Next, I would decide whether a simple display of force would be sufficient to stop him. Crushing a spirit is almost as simple as snuffing a life, and even failing that, bone is easily pushed to its breaking point. If breaking him would be enough, then it would assuredly be the next simplest answer.

And finally, if neither were sufficient, I would take his life myself. This would be the simplest option, after all, and yet it would bring little joy compared to my other options.

But I suspect these options are not ones you would care to hear, much less to employ. You seek a cure for the malady, not an end to its symptoms, wouldn't you agree?

I wouldn't. Let them make their mistakes.

have you tried asking them "and then what"?

I haven't, but I already have a good idea of 'what'.

oh.

hmmmmm... that's really tough... are you two close?

We were dating for a while.

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